In this second part on leadership strategy, your host, John Nelson, continues the conversation with Kay Kennedy and Lucy Leclerc from uLeadership. They discuss how having a measure that is specified for the content being taught, which in this case is leadership, creates a greater likelihood that what is being taught can be studied in predictive analytics to study outcomes. The discussion includes the plan to connect relationship centered leadership to outcomes within the organization. Kay and Lucy also share about how a program of caring for self grew out of their leadership program, given it such a dramatic need for both healthcare leaders and staff. How does caring for self relate to outcomes? Dr. Nelson reviews his research in this and relates it to the program presented in this episode.